Speaker 1: 0:02

Welcome to the Starter Girls podcast, the show dedicated to the Starter Girl. She's an achiever, she's a creator, she's a magic maker, she's a dreamer and she is doing all the things. I'm your host, jennifer Loading, and welcome to this episode.

Speaker 2: 0:24

All right, here we are, another episode of the Starter Girls podcast and I'm so excited about my guest today, elaine Williams. She is a video coach, a speaker coach, a comedic speaker. She's a bestselling author and a comedian with credits Awesome on Saturday Night Live, america's Got Talent, hbo TV networks and the New York Times and Huffington Post. So she has been all over the place and done some incredible things. I'm super excited to chat with her today. So welcome, elaine to the show, excited to have you here today.

Speaker 3: 0:51

Thank you, jennifer. Ever since I saw you on stage talking about your podcast, I was like that woman is cool. I'm so honored to be on your show because I've been listening to a lot of your episodes and you're just a badass.

Speaker 2: 1:04

Hey, I think the same about you too, and that's what I think is so great about what we get to do. It's like minded individuals get to come together and inspire and create and do all these cool things in the world, right? And I kind of think you're a badass too, because you've done some things that I would be so scared to do being a comedian and being on stage that would just be like wow.

Speaker 3: 1:28

You have to be a little crazy to want to do it, but I grew up in Dallas in the 70s and 80s and I am so excited to see all these women supporting each other and it's like we've made our own table and there's no glass ceiling because we made our own. It's just such an exciting time to be a woman in business and to be cheering each other on, instead of that competitive scarcity mindset which is kind of how I grew up. So, yeah, really excited to be here.

Speaker 2: 1:58

But before I kind of jump into this, I want to talk about what you're doing, so our audience kind of has an idea of what it is you do right now and how you help your clients, because I think this is important and obviously I always talk about between both my shows how our paths are not really linear but everything that we do sort of overlaps each other right, like we take little pieces of everything that we do and I know one of the things that's really big for you is creating humor in your life and as a comedian you definitely know how to do that and then pull that into everything that you do. So I wanted you to tell us real quick what it is you do, how do you help your clients and how you're making a difference.

Speaker 3: 2:29

Okay, thank you. So I, right now I'm a video invisibility coach, so I help female entrepreneurs get over their fear of being on camera and their fear of speaking. So some people are great on camera and they're afraid to do it live, and some people are good live and they freeze when they get on camera, and some people are afraid of both. And I'm on a mission to help heal the world. One joke, one video, one story at a time, and I help the healers. You know I'm all about healing. I had three addictions I'm an assault, survivor, domestic violence, survivor you name it. It happened to me, and so I feel like the more I heal myself, the more I can help more people, and I feel like we need this now more than ever. So mostly I help coaches, speakers and authors, but I'm always open to new, new adventures too.

Speaker 2: 3:22

Yeah, and a couple of things I want to say to that one. You know, and we both know, toni Caruso. I had her on my behind the dreamers show and she was talking about how, like, the number one fear is like public speaking, right, like that's the biggest fear that people have. And it's funny that we talk about this because, like, I can do a podcast all day long and I don't really have too much trouble, you know, getting up and speaking in front of a group. But you put me, for whatever reason, on like a live video, like on Facebook or something, and I'm like, oh, I hate it. And you know it's crazy because I've seldom do really any edits on my podcast. Like I pretty much let this stuff just kind of roll, so it's authentic and raw. But there's something about getting on this stupid Facebook camera that makes me crazy, because I think in my head, I think yeah, I think of my head it's like it's live and I can't edit it Right, like I can't take a half.

Speaker 3: 4:09

That is such a great point, jennifer, and I think what happens is and then we pull it double whammy on ourselves of like, oh, I shouldn't be, like shouldn't be. And it's like you're human, and people go oh, I've been speaking my whole life, yeah, but speaking when other people are focusing on you is very different than speaking going to the dry cleaners or Chick-fil-A Right. And so, you know, and I didn't want to do Facebook lives, I was like I'm going to be a speaker coach, I've been on stage my whole life. And then Facebook live come down the pike and my mentor is like you need to be doing Facebook lives, and I was afraid I was going to get bullied or made fun of by my comedian friends because they can be brutal. And so I was like you know, how are we doing? I don't want to be too much of a bother. You know I was not being authentic and I was trying to be professional. I don't know what the hell I was trying to be, but it was not Elaine, you know.

Speaker 3: 5:04

And so, and then I realized, you know, my mentor got bullied in a very like 10,000 person Facebook group. This woman made fun of her, which like really mean and catty, and I tell the story because it's how you handle it right. We can not control the internet and all the. You know I like to. Instead of trolls, I like to call them quarterback, armchair quarterbacks. You know they want to make the comments about stuff, but are they doing anything Anyway?

Speaker 3: 5:34

And so this woman said all this mean stuff and her mentor was like that is awesome, because when you get bullied, it means you're on your way, you're standing out, you're being bull, like anybody Tony Robbins, oprah, anybody who's up to things is going to have naysayers. And the thing is, how much Wait do you want to give it? Yeah, I'm human. I've had a couple of weird comments that I was able to take down. I didn't love it, but I didn't break out. It's like, you know, eating it as a comedian. You know it's not fun, but you don't die, you know, and thinking about your commitments bigger. So you know, and I think any times we step into some new arena, it can feel Right, you know.

Speaker 2: 6:15

Yeah, no, that's good, elena, thank you. And then you're right because I do think that, yeah, you, you, the more you do it, the better you get it navigating and learning how to respond to that or not respond Right, letting it go, kind of thing. And it's funny because I put up a clip the other day about. It was actually a piece from An episode that I had taken and I was talking about my journey and how, you know, I had been in the mirror. I don't think I put Mary Kay on there because I clipped that part out, but I had been in the Mary Kay world for 20 something years and prior to that, had not really Been in a space where I had to talk in front of people and in fact I took public speaking college and was like no, we ain't doing this ever again.

Speaker 2: 6:48

And then of course you sort of get thrown in those roles right, like I got in a Mary Kay. I start doing presentations and I start leading a team and mentoring had to get up for people to start speaking and training and larger audiences, and I was also simultaneously teaching aerobics, so I was forced to get in front of people and be a vulnerable and suck and have to learn how to teach better classes right. So I think, yeah, you do you, you learn to get more confident in what you're doing. But we all have to be aware that we are gonna have some point, have to be vulnerable and raw, right, and if we're gonna grow and move up, we're gonna have to take that as part of the learning curve in this whole journey right, yes, and that's what it is.

Speaker 3: 7:25

Renee Brown, I mean, we all love her work, right, and she there's. You know, I don't know if people know this, but she she was a researcher. She was just kind of cruising along in her life and she'd written a book, self-published, and and then she did this TED talk and she didn't think anybody was really gonna see it and she literally didn't think about what she was gonna wear, you know, and it was her first big thing that and it went viral and and people were so cruel. They made fun of her weight, what she was wearing, her hair like just caddy, caddy, bs stuff. And at one point she was begging her husband to break in to the system and take it down. Like wow, he was like no.

Speaker 3: 8:05

So she has a story why she, like the people are being just so mean. So she sends her kids to school, sends her husband to work, she takes off and she comes home and she's just like in a blanket on her couch, like you know, she's watching down in Abby, and because she's a researcher, she's like oh, I want to know more about this time period. Who is president Dida, dida, dida, teddy Roosevelt? So then she finds this quote the man in the arena which is all like paying no attention to the people, the naysayers who are watching. You know it's something about, like. You know, if he dares, he dares greatly and even if he fails, he fails greatly. You know, like, and it's it's one of my favorite quotes. My sister gave it to me when I was getting sober in New York, but I love that and, and she's also said in another talk, if you're not in the arena getting your ass kicked on a daily basis, then I am not interested in your opinion, and that has really served me.

Speaker 3: 9:06

I. You know, when I was speaking on college campuses, jennifer, as a woman, sometimes other women can be so cruel and catty and I had a couple of, you know, women who wanted to give me feedback and I remember like taking it and listening and you know, and being like the good girl and and then going back to my hotel room and crying and then, after Processing, realizing it was all about them, right, and their stuff. But you know, so it's. I think that's part of Stepping into your next level is just knowing you know what. There's gonna be some stuff and do I have a foundation and People around me that I trust To bounce things off of and help me process yeah if that's any tools when you said that, elaine, because I think it's that coming into yourself almost right, like coming into, it's almost like that freedom of.

Speaker 2: 10:06

And I like what you said about the like if you're not out there, then and Whatever you, whatever words you use, but basically you're not out there doing it yourself, don't come at me because you're not doing anything. And I've really adopted that. I had a mentor when I was a Mary K and she used to always say don't take advice for people you wouldn't trade places with, and I've always clung to that that. You know Everybody has an opinion to say, but if you're not walking in the path that I want to walk, uh-huh, don't even just stay in your lane right.

Speaker 3: 10:34

It's so interesting to me how sometimes people just feel compelled to give you. You're like right, Okay, thank you.

Speaker 3: 10:41

And you know, one of my mentors is very she's like I do not want feedback and I I know that I'm going to, you know, have that moving forward in some areas because it messes with my head. You know, and I believe in the work that I'm doing Because I see the miracles that are happening and I pray to use my story for good so that people can see you can recover. If you've been abused, if you've had multiple addictions, if you come from a messed up family. There is hope and there is help and you know that's part of you know my bigger passion is to help people heal.

Speaker 3: 11:19

I think we have a mental crisis happening in our country and that's one reason I preach comedy, because you know we get professional help. But you know, sometimes people are anxious or depressed. Like go move your body because that helps. There's studies that prove that moving your body and sweating helps with depression and anxiety and I don't have all the statistics cause, you know, but I just know it's helped me. But also I use humor as a gauge. Am I laughing at least a couple of times throughout my work day? If I'm not, then I need to go watch five minutes of something. I put myself in timeout because I think the work I do is important but I don't want to take myself too seriously. That's you know cause I get too intense and I'm too like this and it's like you like calm down, breathe, laugh.

Speaker 2: 12:10

You know I like that. You said you use the timeout, cause I do that too, and I'm with you on the laughing. You have to learn to laugh, you're so. You know one of the things that was funny when I first started doing these episodes and I have all the old episodes out there I tell my people, go back and look at the beginning. We were awful, I mean, it was what it was right, you learn right. But it's so funny because when I first started doing those, I would go back and I would listen to him and I would just cringe Cause I'd be like why did you, like you said in the very why did you say that?

Speaker 2: 12:37

Oh, and I'd get hung up on a word. I used to make fun of me cause I'd get a word like awesome or a hundred percent. I'd have a word and I would just repeat it a hundred times and I would find myself doing I'd get like, ah, you know. And then I, I one day finally just was like you know what, jennifer, this is all good. Like you know, you're enjoying what you're doing, you're helping people. Just learn to laugh at yourself. And there was some kind of therapeutic release when I did that, because it gave me permission now to allow other people to laugh with me instead of at me, you know, instead of them saying you say that word a lot and it's annoying.

Speaker 2: 13:10

It's more like yeah, I know I get hung up on a word sometimes, I don't know why I do that, but now you can laugh with me because it's no longer doing it to me, you're doing it with me, and there's just something about that release that you get when you can learn to do that for yourself and just say you know what I screwed up when I did that. It's okay. I'm human. I'm allowed to make mistakes, but I'm gonna get up next time and I'm gonna do better or I'm gonna do different, and it's okay. You have permission now to just laugh with me about it.

Speaker 3: 13:34

Yeah, I love that and I often will share old memories on Facebook and I'll be like okay, so this was very rambling. So you can see how I've gotten better at getting to the point Like I'll say like okay, this is five years ago, oh Lordy. But part of that is to show people you know how do you get better at something? You keep doing it, you keep doing it.

Speaker 2: 13:59

Yeah, you don't give up and you laugh at yourself, and I love that you're able to do that. And I think there is also, you know, when we're talking about you know, dysfunction and getting through things, because I feel like we all have stories right, like we all have some kind of story that we're wrestling with, and the best way to heal is to help other people, and so I think, whatever form that is what minds my podcast yours is being, you know, doing your comedy and your other things. I think we all find ways to use our grief or our pain or whatever we feel that we had to go through, to not make light of that, but to recognize it and recognize the emotion of it, but to say that we've come through it and here's we can help you. Now you have techniques and tools that you can utilize to help you maybe get through some of your pain points or some of the things that you're struggling with right now.

Speaker 3: 14:43

I love that. Yes, it's the human condition, right, and I think social media is neutral. Right, it's neutral. There've been amazing things and some not so great things, right, and so I think it's good to remember that. It's exciting that we're all so connected, but it also can be daunting, overwhelming for our brains. So I love taking breaks from it, but also remembering that some of it is smoke and mirrors and you know, in AA we say don't compare your insights to somebody else's outsides.

Speaker 2: 15:19

It's good.

Speaker 3: 15:19

You know, and it's so easy to be like, well, she looks like she has it all together or she looks like she has a million dollar business and okay, great if she does, awesome. But don't you know, I think so many women we get into this compare to spare, so I'm gonna tell you. So I was walking yesterday. I'm house sitting in Austin and it's just beautiful right now. It's like this is the time to be in Texas before it gets too freaking hot, right, right. So I'm listening to this true crime podcast and they're interviewing these two women who are journalists, risking their lives to talk about the Murdoch, the Murdoch murders.

Speaker 3: 15:58

Oh yeah, yeah. And the house family has had a vice grip on this county for years and years and for a hundred years, and people have been afraid to go after them and blah, blah, blah, blah. And these two women have been doing it, even though their friends and police are like be careful, be careful, you know. And so I was so amazed. And then one of them shared how all these people her podcast blew up because it was the Murdoch murders and people were stopping what they were doing and emailing her saying you've got to work on your voice. Your voice has vocal fry. Your voice is driving me crazy. You've got to fix your voice.

Speaker 3: 16:37

And at first I didn't even think she had vocal fry because I hear it. But, like I was thinking, does that ever happen to a man? Right, like, and just the fact that people, meanwhile these two women are like putting their lives at risk because they believe in journalism and integrity and making a difference. And people are commenting about their voices. You know a voice. And I just thought, ah, and how do we deal with this? Let's laugh at it because it's crazy. But you know, anyway, I just thought that was an interesting yeah, and I know about the murder.

Speaker 2: 17:14

I actually watched the Netflix documentary on that, so I know what that is and, yeah, pretty brave and bold to be able to do that right. But you're so right too, and I think it doesn't matter who you are. I think there's a critic out there for everybody, and so you just have to decide, you know, are you gonna let that determine your fate or are you gonna just ride with it and recognize everybody's got an opinion, you know? Yeah, I love it.

Speaker 2: 17:36

So, I think this leads into the conversation about community, because I think this is you know, and things that you're doing to keep you know, get the right people in your circle, because we know that our communities are important and who we choose to allow into our space and influence us daily makes a difference in how we operate, not only as human beings, but, I think, in our businesses and our personal lives, everything that we do. So maybe you wanna touch upon that you know some things that you do to ensure that you bring the right people into your space.

Speaker 3: 18:05

That is so true. Yes, you know I have a tendency to love everybody and I get excited, and so I have ended up with, you know, hiring the wrong coaches at times, and so I would just encourage, you know, anybody who's listening. I do believe in investing yourself, and I always have at least two mentors maybe three, because I left my own devices. I'm gonna be busy, I'm gonna be doing a lot of stuff, but it's not always the best thing, right, the next best thing, right. We have a tendency as human beings to grow where we feel comfortable. Like I love podcasting, I could be a guest all day long, you know. I think it's fun, and I do love sharing stories and meeting cool women. You know, like Jennifer, and you know I'm committed to growing my business. I have some big financial goals, right, and so I'm just a huge fan of hiring smart. And you know, if you fall in love with somebody, that's great. Get references, do research. It's just like you know you don't wanna just jump in a bed with somebody because you think they're so perfect and cool, but you just met them for the first date, right? You wanna, there's gotta be some dating. So, you know, do your research. That's one of my things and yeah be, get in a community, even if you're like not a hundred percent sure it's the right community. I feel like most communities are better than no communities. I am in quite a few and I love it because I'm meeting amazing cool women who are doing up to cool things and then sometimes you might upgrade, you know. So I did this.

Speaker 3: 19:51

I was speaking on a cruise, jennifer, and a part of me was like 10 days, 10 days, what am I thinking? Like I'm not a cruise person, what was I thinking? But I've always wanted to speak on a cruise because that's maybe one of my long-term possibilities later, because I love to travel, right? So you know, I went like we're gonna have dinner every night with each other. You know, there's just a part of me that's like I'm used to doing my own thing. I had such a blast and the caliber of these ladies. It was such a high vibe and the cruise was transforming on so many levels and part of it was the high vibe of the other ladies. I mean, this one woman has started her own charter school and now she just started another one and I think she's in her 70s. Like just badass, amazing one woman. They asked me to teach humor and this woman had worked for Steven Spielberg. I was schvitzing, I'm like I'm so sweaty, oh my God. But it went great.

Speaker 3: 20:57

But you know just, you wanna play tennis with people who are better at tennis, which takes it takes something to be willing to be humble. And you know, you wanna be the newest person in the room if possible, right Cause you wanna play with people who are the next level. And so, you know, find a good community and start looking. If you don't have one, toastmasters can be great, there can be great meetups. Start a meetup group. You know, there's just so many great things. Think about who you wanna be around and who you wanna learn from.

Speaker 2: 21:31

Yeah, this is so good. You said some great things there and it's funny because I was getting a little chuckle when you were talking about being on the cruise for 10 days because, having come from the Mary K world, I was in there like 22 plus years. And it's so funny because we would do these events multiple times a year and we had to be together for multiple days together and I am just not a I like I would say I'm kind of an Ambervert, like I love people, like probably like you do, but I also like my quiet time, and so we would be with these women for days and I would just be mentally drained and I would, and sometimes I had to have my own, like they like to group us in rooms, so we'd have three or four people in the room and sometimes I just needed my own room because I needed to go back to have Jennifer time so that I could show up, you know, and be decent and tolerable the next day. But the neat thing was is that we were always around these high caliber women that you know. It was hard to not want to be in that because you'd get in that space and you're around these women that are achieving and they're growing. And you know, and I agree with you, I think there's something about that. But also, you know, not being the smartest person in the room, right Like you want to be in the room with people that are better at what you do so that you can learn from them and be better.

Speaker 2: 22:35

Because, you know, I had a guy that I interviewed the other day. He is a boxer. They did a Netflix documentary about him, kmf Awesome. He was telling me how he had this goal to be in the Olympics and he never made it. He ended up having I think, like a technicality and got disqualified. But he several like a couple at least a couple of times qualified but didn't get there and he said, had I never made the goal, you know, put myself in that space to make that goal, I would have never landed where I landed. I would have landed lower than where I landed right. So I think there's something to be said about us being in the space with the right people, because when we do that, we want to achieve more, we want to level up and naturally what happens is we're going to have more success in the area that we want.

Speaker 3: 23:19

Right, I love that. And you know Les Brown says shoot for the moon, even if you miss, you hit some stars, you know right, right.

Speaker 2: 23:27

I love Les Brown. By the way, I know all these people you're talking to.

Speaker 3: 23:32

Yeah, I got to meet him and hang out with him and go to one of his events and he's I do think he's one of the greatest speakers of our time.

Speaker 2: 23:40

Yeah, he's a lot of fun, he um. So the the life coaching certification that I went through, mary Morrissey actually had the same mentor with Les Brown and Dwayne Dyer, and so I'm yeah, I've heard a lot, you know, about them. So I do want to touch upon one other thing before we let you know our audience go on this, because I think you have such great um, you just have a great presence and I think what you're doing is awesome. I think you've had a great journey and you're continuing to use your journey and to evolve and help other people.

Speaker 2: 24:06

But I'd love to talk a little bit about brand statement, because I know this is important to you and how we kind of differentiate ourselves as women, because, again, there are so many of us out there doing these different things, and I think what sets us apart, in my opinion, is us being authentic, right, like being true to ourself and and really honing in on our gifts, like what we're really good at In your case, it's comedy, right, Like whatever that is. How do we tap into that to be to shine, so to speak?

Speaker 3: 24:35

I love that. Well, and I have a theory. I believe that everybody has the potential to be super charismatic. Some people have a tent, like Hugh Jackman, right, jfk MLK, right, but they, they were very comfortable in their own skin, right, because they had been on stage and been on stage and been on stage and been on stage and you know. And so to me, part of being charisma is like hey, this is, this is what I love, I love with the lights, it's, it's, it's, let's go right. And so part of finding your own charisma to me is like getting used to being in the spotlight, and I believe stage time is stage time. So when you're on video, you're learning how to practice and focus and you're learning what it's like to kind of feel the pressure, and it's very similar to speaking, although it's a different vibe, and so I'm just a huge fan.

Speaker 3: 25:32

You know, I wasn't funny when I first started doing comedy. I didn't know how to be funny on demand, I didn't know how to write, but I felt compelled to get up there. I was scared and I kept doing it and I kept doing it and I got better and I got funnier and I took classes and did, did, did, did. But I say that because I believe that charismatic speaking can be learned. You know, marie Forleo is beautiful and and I've seen some of her early videos and they were very rough. You know she's great because she's been doing this for years now, right, and so to me that's part of what is charismatic is like learning. You know what this is me. I got some wrinkles, I'm 55. I think I look good. I tell people I'm 87. And then they're like you look amazing, right. So like whatever's gonna work, it's all relative, you know.

Speaker 3: 26:26

And the other thing to never is, I think what happens, especially with women, is we forget who we are and we relate to ourselves, right, Like think about it. You wake up and you're like, oh God, what's Monday? Okay, what's on my thing? A lot of times, without even knowing it, if I'm worried about money or my schedule or whatever, I'm like relating to myself like I'm 15 or 28 or 34. And I think that happens a lot where we're we don't even realize, but we're relating to ourselves like who we used to be, even 10 years ago or five years ago. And so that's why I love saying my why every morning to my accountability buddy or somebody, because it pulls me forth and reminds me I've never been this wise, I've never had this much training.

Speaker 3: 27:20

I'm in the best. You know I'm not. I don't have tons of injuries. I had a ton of injuries 10 years ago and I was in pain a lot of times and, thank God, my body has healed. I know you can relate to that right. And so when I can think about like I've never been this focused, felt this driven, felt this on my dime about what I'm doing in my whole life, so I'm oh yeah, I'm 55. Oh yeah, I am a brilliant, compassionate, badass thought leader on a big mission. Oh yeah, that's who I am. So so I think you know getting present to that and we talked about, like, having an AM ritual. I'm still working on my PM ritual because I just keep, kind of keep. I you know that needs some work, but you know whatever it is meditate, pray, read, go, move your body, make sure you drink water. You know whatever is going to set you up so that you're like whoa, let's do it.

Speaker 2: 28:21

You know yeah, I know I love it. I mean, I think you're speaking to all the things that I talked about too, but what I'm hearing from you really is just coming Into yourself and and really owning who you are. And I think that comes from the practice. Right, it's the confidence that we build over and over and over. I, you know, it's like one of those things we're like all of a sudden, sudden clicks, right, and you're like it becomes easier, right. Like you have that moment where you go oh, this used to be hard. And then you're like you come into it and you're like, yeah, it's like when I talk about podcasts so funny, like I don't think anything of it, like I can whip up a podcast pretty quickly, I can jump on, we're gonna go, let's go.

Speaker 2: 28:53

Right, I don't think about, whereas in the beginning it was no different than when I used to teach aerobics. When I first started teaching aerobics, I spent hours in my garage making out routines. Then I got to a place where I'd walk into a class at the last minute. I'm like, okay, pull the step out, we're gonna go. Or I teach a kickboxing class. I didn't have to think I'd make it up on the fly. Right, it comes in right, all those hours of work that we do and then eventually, as we do that, we build the confidence and then we come into ourself and then I think that's where that charisma starts to Fall into place. Right, I think people give up so quickly.

Speaker 3: 29:24

It's so true, and and because we don't want to be uncomfortable, right, yeah, like, oh, it's so uncomfortable, but you're not gonna die, right? And you know, I didn't realize for years I had buried shame and I had a hard time getting myself booked and part of it was I was so Uncomfortable owning my value and so, thank God, that's why I've had lots of, you know, mentors and and I've worked on this, worked on this. But, yeah, so when we first step into something, we're super self-conscious and I love come like, think about when you're learning how to drive you are very aware you do not know how to drive, even though you may pretend like you do, because you're a teenager, right.

Speaker 3: 30:05

So you have to really think about changing the lanes, a parallel parking, and you're consciously incompetent, right. And then we do it, we do it, and now we don't remember where we, how we drove to the store or whatever. We're unconsciously competent, and so that's one reason my method is like let's practice, let's make a video Awesome, let's do it again. Let's do it again, because how are you gonna get better? You're gonna keep doing it and then by the 10th or 20th time, you're gonna be like you know what I can do? This this is. I'm not, you know, not every short form video is gonna be a viral sensation, but it's about being consistent, you know so anyway.

Speaker 3: 30:46

Yeah, I think we do give up. We're, you know Tony Robbins says we're a lot of dabblers, and I think you know so many times we'll start something and then it just is uncomfortable or sort of tedious and we go and it's like no, no, that's keep going.

Speaker 2: 31:01

Keep going, just keep going, just keep going. This is so good, he way right this has been awesome. So what? Do you have anything in the horizon that you're gonna, that you're working on, or that we should be looking for?

Speaker 3: 31:15

Thank you. Thank you for asking, jennifer. I am so excited I'm going away on a big Trip for a month Awesome. And this is kind of what sort of surprise sprung on me. And so I am like, so excited I'm leaving in June 20th. I'll be back to like 20th, going to Croatia and Montenegro and Italy and there's gonna be sale.

Speaker 3: 31:38

I'm like so it's exciting, but but I am launching a new group program that's gonna start in September. But anybody who wants to join in I'm gonna be doing some promo stuff and I'm gonna be teaching more improv because I think that that will help so many people. I really think that is one of the biggest fears about Public speaking is, what if I look foolish? What if something happens? And I'm like well, let's roleplay that you know, so that if you learn to trust yourself that's what improv is Then you won't have that tripped up fear. So because you know the best way to grow anything is to be out there speaking and sharing about it, and I know so many amazing people who are doing amazing work and I'm like, let's get you out there more, you know.

Speaker 2: 32:28

So I agree with you definitely. Well, if our audience wants to get in touch with you, maybe they want to check out about this. You know this deal you have coming up, or just follow you, or maybe they want to Reach out to you to learn more stuff. Where do we want to send them?

Speaker 3: 32:40

Okay, thank you. I think the best way is Instagram Elaine Williams, fun and Captivate the crowd. Comm, I have a really hot freebie that is captivate the crowd checklist. Okay, and I tell people, print it up, put it in your office, your your bathroom, wherever you do your thing, and it's just a great way to help you remember what you need to do before you start your camera or before you're gonna go speak. It's just nice to have everything right in there. You know, I've spoken in 43 states and four countries and the day of a speech you just get a little excited and that's the day you forget stuff. Yeah, I'm like pack at the night before. Here's all the stuff. So those are the best ways and and I do free classes, jennifer, at least once a month Just to help people get going. Okay, I do a free master.

Speaker 2: 33:31

Yeah, that's good to know in that checklist I'm sure will be helpful because, you're right, there's nothing like not being prepared to get there last minute. You're like, what am I missing? Don't have something done, I forget this. Yeah, right, elaine, this has been so much fun. I know we could sit here forever and talk about, but I know you got things to do and the rest of us have things to do, right. But thank you so much for jumping on your sharing all this. I know it's gonna be helpful.

Speaker 2: 33:52

I think that you know anything that we can do to help. You know our leaders and especially any. You know female entrepreneur, creator, whoever she is out there, try to expand and be a. You know Not only about our human being, but a business, better business owner, all the things you touched. A lot, of, a lot of really good nuggets here that I think will be beneficial. So thank you for that. Oh, thank you, jennifer. Thanks for having me. Yeah, it's been fun. Of course, we do want to say to our audience if you enjoy the show, check us out over there on Apple, give us a rating over there. You can follow us on YouTube so we can keep sharing all this incredible content, talking to all these amazing Women and people like Elaine we love you and, as I always say, you guys, be safe and be kind to one another. We will see you next time.